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we've got james gandolfini playing you as cia director. i waon't ask you to comment on the acting, but the movie seems to indicate that enhanced interrogation techniques were used to get information on bin laden. is that true? >> well, first of all, it's a movie. let's remember that. i lived the real story. and the real story is that in order to put the puzzle of intelligence together, that led us to bin laden, there was a lot of intelligence. there were a lot of pieces out there that were part of that puzzle. yes, some of it came from some of the tactics that were used at that time, interrogation tactics that were used. but the fact is, we put together most of that intelligence without having to resort to that. >> and you think you could have gotten it without any -- >> i think we could have gotten bin laden without that. >> it's a big weekend. there's a big contest a lot of people are talking about. >> go 49ers. >> it's the contest that has to do with clinton or biden. 2016. >> oh. >> you've been close to both of them. secretary panetta,
we've got james gandolfini playing you as cia director. i waon't ask you to comment on the acting, but the movie seems to indicate that enhanced interrogation techniques were used to get information on bin laden. is that true? >> well, first of all, it's a movie. let's remember that. i lived the real story. and the real story is that in order to put the puzzle of intelligence together, that led us to bin laden, there was a lot of intelligence. there were a lot of pieces out there that...
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two thousand and six now the only country in europe which has acknowledged the presence of a secret cia facility on its territory is lithuania and if you were to look at it you will you will see something almost a deliberate site except for the imposing fences surrounding it likewise a suspected secret prison poland is believed to be located here apparently in one of the most beautiful spots in the country according to various reports mostly from journalists or human rights organizations so-called high value detainees were flown in by the cia for interrogation at these polish facilities. i managed to get records from the airport in germany where it's clear that they have learned an aircraft used by the cia very important evidence because until then everyone denied bs landings and reported different destinations of these flights to europe controlled however just like their american counterparts the authorities in warsaw have been extremely frugal with the details and investigation into the secret prisons has been dragging on for almost five years now but what earth during its course rema
two thousand and six now the only country in europe which has acknowledged the presence of a secret cia facility on its territory is lithuania and if you were to look at it you will you will see something almost a deliberate site except for the imposing fences surrounding it likewise a suspected secret prison poland is believed to be located here apparently in one of the most beautiful spots in the country according to various reports mostly from journalists or human rights organizations...
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people are moving their focus elsewhere so-called black sites secret prisons were established by the cia during its well publicized war on terror unlike the cause however these secret facilities were never publicly discussed by the authorities the us claimed they could hold prisoners outside the us because then they wouldn't be subject to the geneva conventions to international law and humanitarian law reports suggest such prisons were in existence from two thousand and two basically not long after the events of nine eleven the us government denied the existence of these prisons until two thousand and six now the only country in europe which has acknowledged the presence of a secret cia facility on its territory is lithuania and if you were to look at it you will you will see something almost a deliberate site except for the imposing fences surrounding it likewise a suspected secret prison in poland is believed to be located here apparently in one of the most beautiful spots in the country according to various reports mostly from journalists or human rights organizations so-called high v
people are moving their focus elsewhere so-called black sites secret prisons were established by the cia during its well publicized war on terror unlike the cause however these secret facilities were never publicly discussed by the authorities the us claimed they could hold prisoners outside the us because then they wouldn't be subject to the geneva conventions to international law and humanitarian law reports suggest such prisons were in existence from two thousand and two basically not long...
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would add to that in addition to the hail appointment we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with . who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for real coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington that it's fall would be a strategic victory against iran what can you say about an approach like that first of all at this point iran's most important arab ally is no longer syria it's iraq thanks in no small part to the united states iran's most important strategic ally in the arab world is iraq. even in syria you know bashar al assad is still i don't know is imminent and even if you reach a point where he might feel like he needs to abandon damascus or something like this you're going to still have big chunks of syria that are effectively under good control
would add to that in addition to the hail appointment we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with . who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for real coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there...
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to be interrogated by the cia -- i will try not to break. [laughter] abu musab al-zarqawi was from a lower middle class background. he became radicalized while in prison. then became associated with al qaeda near the end of the mujahedin. in afghanistan -- mujahedin period in afghanistan. he had been in iraq before, but he appeared on our radar screen at the end of 2003. he had already started to build an al qaeda in iraq infrastructure that leveraged sunni fear. it is pretty important to view how we saw it. i took over in the fall of 2003. i went to iraq. i got there in october. immediately, it was obvious to me that the situation in iraq was much worse than it appeared from from afar. i was coming out of the pentagon. it was clearly unsettled. it looked much worse than we had thought. the first hope was that if we got saddam hussein, that would solve the problem. we made an effort to do that. in december, we picked up saddam. it became obvious that, as one of my guys described, a bunch of former regime guys were not really running the begi
to be interrogated by the cia -- i will try not to break. [laughter] abu musab al-zarqawi was from a lower middle class background. he became radicalized while in prison. then became associated with al qaeda near the end of the mujahedin. in afghanistan -- mujahedin period in afghanistan. he had been in iraq before, but he appeared on our radar screen at the end of 2003. he had already started to build an al qaeda in iraq infrastructure that leveraged sunni fear. it is pretty important to view...
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point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone hill the israelis are just fine with who will continue what many of the covert programs of course are drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that would be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we all are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington that bashar last fall would be a strategic victory against iran what can you say about an approach like that first of all at this point iran's most important arab ally is no longer syria it's iraq thanks in no small part to the united states iran's most important strategic ally in the arab world is iraq. even in syria you know bashar al assad is still i don't know it is imminent and even if you reach a point where he might feel like he needs to abandon damascus or something like this you're going to still have big chunks of syria that are effectively under good control of his government u
point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone hill the israelis are just fine with who will continue what many of the covert programs of course are drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that would be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we all are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in...
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a former cia officer who became a whistleblower on america's torture program is now waiting to see two and a half years in prison. and greece's labor ministry headquarters turns into a battleground hundreds of protesters brawl with the police so the imminent pension cuts that and more after a quick break. here the reindeer is interesting for the herders. and when it suffers. people do their best to help. the distances are. predictable. please liz. liz liz. liz liz . lemon live live. live . live from moscow this is on the us political establishment continuing to endorse new chiefs defense secretary nominee chuck hagel was grilled by the senate this week while senator john kerry has been sworn in as u.s. secretary of state kerry took over from hillary clinton and many analysts believe he is likely to be rather old school in his current approach you know there may be some changes in style and tone but there won't be a change in substance to to kerry and clinton any more frankly than there was between his condo lease already seventy three clinton in the last twenty years even in the last s
a former cia officer who became a whistleblower on america's torture program is now waiting to see two and a half years in prison. and greece's labor ministry headquarters turns into a battleground hundreds of protesters brawl with the police so the imminent pension cuts that and more after a quick break. here the reindeer is interesting for the herders. and when it suffers. people do their best to help. the distances are. predictable. please liz. liz liz. liz liz . lemon live live. live . live...
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a former cia officer who became a whistleblower on america's torture program is now waiting to see two and a half years in prison. and greece's labor ministry headquarters turns into a battleground hundreds of protesters brawl with the police so the imminent pension cuts that and more after a quick break. here the reindeer is interesting for the herders. and when it suffers. people do their best to help. but the distances are. limitless supply. live. live live. live live. live . live from moscow this is on the us political establishment continuing to endorse new chiefs defense secretary nominee chuck hagel was grilled by the senate this week while senator john kerry has been sworn in as u.s. secretary of state kerry took over from hillary clinton and many analysts believe he is likely to be rather old school in his current approach you know there may be some changes in style and tone but there won't be a change in substance to to kerry and clinton any more frankly than there was between kind of these already seventy three clinton in the last twenty years even in the last since bush and
a former cia officer who became a whistleblower on america's torture program is now waiting to see two and a half years in prison. and greece's labor ministry headquarters turns into a battleground hundreds of protesters brawl with the police so the imminent pension cuts that and more after a quick break. here the reindeer is interesting for the herders. and when it suffers. people do their best to help. but the distances are. limitless supply. live. live live. live live. live . live from...
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point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington that bashar last fall would be a strategic victory against iran what can you say about an approach like that first of all at this point iran's most important arab ally is no longer syria it's iraq thanks in no small part to the united states iran's most important strategic ally in the arab world is iraq. even in syria you know bashar al assad is still i don't know is imminent and even if you reach a point where he might feel like he needs to abandon damascus or something like this you're going to still have big chunks of syria that are effectively under good control of his government under his secu
point that we have the appointment of john brennan at the cia who i think is someone who the israelis are just fine with who will continue many of the covert programs of course our drone program but many of the covert programs that would be under his under his authority at the cia and that will be very much to israel's liking that will serve to undermine any attempts or any possibilities for we are coming to terms of the islamic republic of iran there is an argument often made in washington...
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you've been there. >> i was director of the cia. >> exactly. >> so seems like it's always the cia's fault. >> i say this without demeaning our efforts at intelligence, but the fact is we -- there are areas in the middle east where we do not have the kind of intelligence we should have in order to give us a heads up about these kinds of attacks. that's a reality. we've got to do better at this. >> and you're discounting the number of things we do avoid with good intelligence. >> obviously for a lot of reasons we don't always hear about those. let me ask you about the israel strike, you've been to syria. did you know about that in advance. did anyone say bad idea, good idea? or was it just -- i know you were meeting with head of the israeli intelligence forces. were you all informed? >> i'm not going to discuss the details of what happened or didn't happen there. what i will say is this, that we are concerned about the danger of sophisticated weapons like sa 17s and cbw, chemical and biological weapons falling into the hands of terrorists. that is something we're concerned about. we do plan
you've been there. >> i was director of the cia. >> exactly. >> so seems like it's always the cia's fault. >> i say this without demeaning our efforts at intelligence, but the fact is we -- there are areas in the middle east where we do not have the kind of intelligence we should have in order to give us a heads up about these kinds of attacks. that's a reality. we've got to do better at this. >> and you're discounting the number of things we do avoid with good...
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general hayden, former director of the cia was talking about incoming secretary of state john kerry, incoming if he is confirmed secretary of defense chuck hagel and here is what he had to say about the new team. >> i think the new team thinks more like the president thinks when it comes to foreign policy. this is going to be a team that might not push back as much with regard to cuts or withdrawals or smaller footprints or reluctance to have bigfoot prints in new areas. >> i want you to tell me what your reaction is to that. do you see a new team coming in with a different attitude toward the president's policies? >> no, i really don't. after all, the president is the person who makes policy with regards to foreign affairs and defense policy. >> this is about pushback. the suggestion is you all do push back and this team might not. >> i've got to tell you, anybody who knows john kerry and anybody who knows chuck hagel, i've been with him in meetings and conferences, and i've been with him on issue debates, they push back. believe me, they push back on the issues. i think in the situ
general hayden, former director of the cia was talking about incoming secretary of state john kerry, incoming if he is confirmed secretary of defense chuck hagel and here is what he had to say about the new team. >> i think the new team thinks more like the president thinks when it comes to foreign policy. this is going to be a team that might not push back as much with regard to cuts or withdrawals or smaller footprints or reluctance to have bigfoot prints in new areas. >> i want...
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with me is former cia operative mike bake fres baker from boisd phares. are are our embassies under a greater threat now than ever before? >> they are certainly under a greater threat not because of the inner ring meaning the protection of the embassies. what walls should we build, how many security guards. that is uniform across the web of our embassies but because of the outer ring. who are the enemies. in libya for example the idea that the militia that were not really considered 80s enemies were the ones who attacked us should raise a flag and in other places around the world what the u.s. government needs to do s to understand what are the networks at play. in turkey, for example it is not just the local left wing militia that i would be concerned about but the penetration coming from iran and syria. so the outer ring seems to need growing in threat against u.s. embassies for private institutions for that matter. >> judge jeanine: and mike there is a report that says a private security company hired by the state department to protect american diploma
with me is former cia operative mike bake fres baker from boisd phares. are are our embassies under a greater threat now than ever before? >> they are certainly under a greater threat not because of the inner ring meaning the protection of the embassies. what walls should we build, how many security guards. that is uniform across the web of our embassies but because of the outer ring. who are the enemies. in libya for example the idea that the militia that were not really considered 80s...
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at the time, his words reflected the considered judgment and intelligence of the cia at home and around the world. if you look back at what he said 10 years ago, what are the lessons for american foreign policy? guest: i can tell you that the lesson for me was that i made a terrible mistake of believing that speech. of all of the people in the administration, i never believed colin paulo would misrepresent the facts and lead them to believe we should support the argument he laid out. it was the predominant reason why someone like me, who had less inclination to believe anything that dick cheney or george bush had to say about iraq cows i said paul -- iraq, i said powell would never mislead us. i hold him accountable for believing -- convincing people that we should fall in line. it was erroneous and did not have the underpinning of anything that resembled the accurate information that would have just applied -- justify the speech in the first place. host: we are talking with marc ginsberg in new york. we have a call from mississippi. caller: i am proud of our president. he is a thinking
at the time, his words reflected the considered judgment and intelligence of the cia at home and around the world. if you look back at what he said 10 years ago, what are the lessons for american foreign policy? guest: i can tell you that the lesson for me was that i made a terrible mistake of believing that speech. of all of the people in the administration, i never believed colin paulo would misrepresent the facts and lead them to believe we should support the argument he laid out. it was the...
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told by the secretary of defense, secretary of state, national security adviser, and a director of the cia that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. for a lot of the decisions that were made at the outset, they were decisions that were informed with incorrect information. as the committee is judging hagel on that decision as others, i want to tell the committee that was the experience wasthis senator. -- with this senator. what i would like to do with my time, since there are a few of us in this room that served in the military during the vietnam era, and you clearly have that experience in combat, i would -- by the way, a lot of people do not know anything about vietnam and do not know how difficult it was of but how the nation was divided. i would like you, i would like to know something about your service and in vietnam and your combat experience. were you wounded? >> thank you. if i may, if i read into your question with some latitude in answering, i would responded this way. i think my time is better served to maybe talk about more of the specific things like senator mccain
told by the secretary of defense, secretary of state, national security adviser, and a director of the cia that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq. for a lot of the decisions that were made at the outset, they were decisions that were informed with incorrect information. as the committee is judging hagel on that decision as others, i want to tell the committee that was the experience wasthis senator. -- with this senator. what i would like to do with my time, since there are a few...
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if they could tap into the cia, they could tap into subscriptions. everything is through the computer now and through your hand held telephone. >> we ought not tell penal we are going on vacation and don't share it over the internet, right? >> there is no reason to do that because people are much withing you. i mean, everybody is watching. why tell people where you are going. you know where you are going. when you get there that's one thing. to advertise you are going for one week, with it weeks, no reason to do that. >> some of these travel web sites, put them online. smart phone. keeps your whole itinerary there online you say avoid doing that why? >> because they are tracking you with the computers now. track all your travelocity stuff. little things which tracks you. like people when they have a lay their car they don't think about the stuff they leave in their glove compartment. author of jeepous on hold, walter thank you for joining us. great tips. >> thanks for having me. >> 7:27 now. coming up on "fox & friends." do you want to get in shape?
if they could tap into the cia, they could tap into subscriptions. everything is through the computer now and through your hand held telephone. >> we ought not tell penal we are going on vacation and don't share it over the internet, right? >> there is no reason to do that because people are much withing you. i mean, everybody is watching. why tell people where you are going. you know where you are going. when you get there that's one thing. to advertise you are going for one week,...